Friday, March 8, 2013

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - Readalong post 3

Ok, so before I get into this section proper I have a new theory on an old discussion. We have talked endlessly about school fees and I have come to the conclusion that yes, they do have fees. My reasoning is that if they didn't, why would the Weasleys be so poor? Sure they have 7 kids, but they spend 9 months away from the family home being fed and housed, so aside from a lump sum at the start of each semester for new books and gear they should have a fair amount to spare while school's in. Surely a ministry wage is enough to support two people at home, with money leftover to save for the start of semester. But since they seem to be struggling with money all the time, there must be some other factor gobbling up their funds. Of course, Mr Weasley could have a secret gabbling addiction, or Mrs Weasley could be funnelling 100s of galleons a year into Lockhart books....

YUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLEEEEEEE BAAAAAALLLLLLLL!

Dancing at the Yule Ball
This section is awesome and terrible (poor Hagrid!) for a number of reasons but it's remarkable to me because it's when the lightbulb finally went off that Hermione and Ron were totally in love and the would-they-wouldn't-they thing would be going on between the two of them until they finally stopped being stubborn and just kissed each other on each other's mouth. I just wish they wouldn't be so nasty to each other in the meantime, come on guys, can't we all be friends?

But poor Hagrid, a wonderful night of dancing is soured when he comes clean to his tall lady love and she shuts him down (seriously woman, who are you kidding?) and then is made even worse when that bitch Skeeter (seriously, I hate her so much, and not in a gurl-you-so-bad kind of way) slams him in that "article". Not only is it further proof that wizards are dicks, but it's Hagrid. He's like a grown up Neville, YOU DO NOT HURT HIM OK! So it makes my heart swell when HRH finally force their way in and join forces with Dumbledore to convince Hagrid he's actually quite a lovely fellow and he shouldn't listen to mean ladies with lying quills. It makes me want to cry when he talks about his dad and why he thinks Harry will win. He's such an earnest character, I love him so, so much. And how great is it when he ends his self-imposed banishment and comes out all 'whatevs like I even care' and proves he's a kick ass Care of Magical Creatures teacher. He's like, unicorns? Screw you old lady, I'm going to catch some baby unicorns which by the law of the internet are 10,000 times cuter than old stinky adult ones. And then I'm going to show these stupid kids nifflers which are adorable AND like shiny things - so they're like two wins in one. Suck it fools.


And then we have the second task, which Harry only just manages to make it to, and it's perhaps my favourite task because it best shows Harry as Harry will come to be. Even when he's a little bit stupid (or a lot. I mean seriously dude, did you actually think Dumbledore would kill students to punish you for failing? Hogwarts safety precautions are lax but not that bad) first and foremost he is loyal, noble to a fault (there's that stupidity thing again) and brave. It's just as important to save a stranger as it is his best friend, and no competition is worth enough to leave people potentially in danger. It manages to show both his faults and his virtues, and paves the way for his often stupid but always well-meaning and brave decisions in the next three books. I also really love that the mer-people are creepy and that they're led by a woman. Those scaly folk know what's what.


Extra thoughts for your dollar

*Just to add to the house elf debate from last week, on p331  Dobby uses the term enslavement to describe the house elves situation.

*I'm really glad Fleur is brought back later, because I disliked her A LOT in this book, but I hated disliking her because I knew I was being told to feel that way about her. At least later she has a bit more substance to her character, so if you still hate her you're hating her on your terms.

*I like how responsible Sirius is in this book. He's the adult Harry needs in his life.

*Does anyone remember reading whether Skeeter was based on a real journo? I felt like that Hermione scene with the hate mail was probably based off mail she received (howlers excluded obvs) after some journo bashed her for dating Gordon Ramsay or something. (she didn't date Gordon Ramsay did she? I just make that up, and I think I'd die if she actually did)

*You become a prefect for the bathroom right?

*Why does Cedric have to be so cryptic with his help? It's not like Harry was like, "hey Cedric, to prepare for the first task maybe take a jump in a volcano - it'll be like that but mobile"

*For some reason I always imagine Ron's dress robes are really slim fitting, like Morticia from the Addam's family. No idea why, but it's hilarious and I recommend you all do the same.

*I can never decide how I feel about Hermione's 'transformation' at the ball- it's too close to the slew of 90s films   about the ugly girl becoming beautiful enough for the handsome guy, but was actually pretty all along and why does she need to take off painter's overalls to be considered beautiful huh? Although I respect Hermione being like, 'yeah dude too much work, I'll save that shit for my wedding or something' - because I know those feels lady.


Is everyone psyched for next week's final installment, also known as that-time-when-the-evil-dudes-got-real-chatty-and-talked-on-and-on-and-on-for-several-chapters?






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I thought people might feel that way about Hermione prettying herself up for the ball, but I think it was also to do the whole "stun the teenage boys into realizing she's a girl" thing. Cause to them she really is just kind of one of the guys, and this enables Ron's stupid brain to wake up and take notice of her like he should! And I also like her "Yeah, that's too much work for everyday" cause that's exactly how I feel about make-up stuff.

Also, HEARTS for that first GIF! For some reason I can't stop staring at it...
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kayleigh m · 629 weeks ago

It's unbelievable right?!

Yeah I def see that side of her transformation but there's always that nagging 'erm I'm uncomfortable' side too
I think that BECAUSE she's all, Oh yeah, that's way too much work for everyday life, that makes it seem like her pretties are more for her own benefit. Like, she dolls up because fuck yeah she CAN, but she doesn't HAVE to, so it's not the oppression of the patriarchy, it's just a girl putting her war paint on. If she had to sleek her hair every time she saw Ron or Viktor, then yeah, I have a problem with it. But she DOESN'T. Rock your crimp-style, Herms.
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kayleigh m · 629 weeks ago

Gooood point! And I do definitely appreciate that she doesn't let the praise convince her to change too.
So stoked for the Hermione-Ron story development. I love how adorably awkward they both are about the whole thing.

I like your analysis of HP's faults and strengths in Task 2 -- I gave him major credit for rescuing the stranger girl because the clue DID say, pretty specifically, that the prospects would be "black" and their loved ones wouldn't come back within an hour, and, well, Harry knows how harsh the wizarding world can be, and he knows how important your friends (and family) can be to your happiness. But you are so right that that same fierce loyalty is also a bit stupid and can play against him, too.
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kayleigh m · 629 weeks ago

Yeah you're right about the clue but I find it hard to imagine Dumbles being like 'welp that's the rules, sorry Weezys one kid less now'. But I guess there is 0 reason why Harry wouldn't be like 'oh shit Hogwarts be Hogwartin''.

Ron and Hermione are amazing but what happened with Krum? Was there a summer visit?
'oh shit Hogwarts be Hogwartin'' - YES and also LOL.
"Of course, Mr Weasley could have a secret gabbling addiction" The dark truth to the Weasley's money. Except does Hogwarts have some sort of scholarship program? Because it seems to be the ONLY wizarding school around so what happens if you just can't afford to send your kids there?

OMG that Yule Ball gif!

I am glad Hagrid was FINALLY able to put together interesting CoMC lessons. Cos those skrewts, that was a miss. But HOORAY BABY UNICORNS.

Aww Harry you're so dumb and brave and noble and wonderful.

NED!!!

Well, now I'm picture Harry & Ron in Morticia Addams's dress. And hair. And nails. And makeup. It's pretty great.
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kayleigh m · 629 weeks ago

NED! I have a Pushing Daisies post coming this week!

I only picture Ron like that but seriously, how great is it? Otherwise what's the big deal with the robes?

A scholarship is an interesting idea - but who supplies the moolah?
What is the big deal with dress robes? Don't they wear robes most of the time anyway? I think Ron's just complaining cos why not.

OK so, Boyfriend+'s school was private BUT everyone who got in had to get a full scholarship so no one really paid. So I asked him how that worked, since it's a private school so it's not funded by taxes. He said the school gets by on grants and donations. So maybe Hogwarts is like that?
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kayleigh m · 629 weeks ago

That's an awesome school system and way better than playing $20000 a year for a private education.

But if that's the case, why are the Weasleys so poor?
Well, Molly doesn't work and Ron says in the first book that Arthur doesn't make a lot of money doing what he does. Plus, even though the kids are eventually out on their own, feeding and clothing seven children throughout their growing-up-time (the wine is taking my woooords!) is 'spensive.
But why doesn't he make much money? Considering how obsessed everyone is with keeping their magic a secret you'd really think his would be one of the more important departments and thereby paid in accordance. Anyway, I still think their poorness might also be proof by association of school fees. :)
Whuuuuuut is that Mean Girls/HP gif, I can't even!! *stares at it for another hour*

Right! Cedric's crypticness is totally annoying, and he could have been like 'Um, the egg says this poem, and it goes...' but THEN we would have missed out on the Prefect's bathroom and I just won't have that!

And I didn't even think about the Hermione-transformation- I definitely think you're right, but I ALSO appreciate that she's like 'yeah, but I'm not going to do it every day because meh.' But I also think it makes Hermione slightly more human because she's admitting that she does care about things that aren't like, school and books. And being bossy. (SORRY HERMIONE, I STILL LOVE YOU!)

Hagrid did rock it in this section. And you didn't even mention his defending D-Dore!!
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kayleigh m · 629 weeks ago

I have so many mash up gifs and it's really hard not use them all at once. But this might be my fave, mainly because of Snape as Amy Poehler. Perfection.

that's true, but Cedric could have at least thrown Harry the keys said "yo open it under water and decipher the poem" and Harry would be like "done".

Hagrid was too awesome to note everything! He was quite a guy.
Hermione: She IS All That.

Maybe Arthur is spending all of the Weasley money on plugs.

Iamsoexcitedforthenextsection. I might read it all tonight.
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kayleigh m · 629 weeks ago

DO IT! Mass reads of HP is the only way to live.

Like your plugs idea, let's roll with it.
"At least later she has a bit more substance to her character, so if you still hate her you're hating her on your terms." HEAR HEAR. I do think that the second task is a large part of why she becomes involved in the Order of the Phoenix and even consents to marry Bill. Because she's French and could easily be like, what murdery British wizard? PEACE. And instead she puts herself on the line for Harry (okay, fighting Voldy is everybody's thing but really it's Harry's thing) because once Harry put himself on the line for her sister, and she never forgets that.

Also, "hey Cedric, to prepare for the first task maybe take a jump in a volcano - it'll be like that but mobile." I just peed myself.
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kayleigh m · 629 weeks ago

Ugh, yes! I love everything you just said about Fleur and I never thought about it that way but it makes so much sense and adds even more to her character.

THIS IS WHY THIS READALONG ROCKS!

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